The following was posted by Kasey on Seth and Personal Reality, Wed Jul 6, 2011, 8:32 pm (PDT)
The poem about the snake was inspired (by) a prominent member of my church. The problem is that she angers others and then blames them for not understanding her. It would be humorous except that she has now actually driven at least five of my friends from our congregation. She is a valued asset and most of the Leadership just refuse to see the “bad” stuff that she is doing. Obviously I have attracted some curious creations, to mix meta4physics. [smile]
She is a hard lesson. I have tried sitting back and watching, discussing issues with her, fighting with her, and several other strategies. The solution might just be walking away from the church. However, I think that if I can find a healthy solution for how I interact with her and yet not be involved with any of the “negative” aspects that she projects, as I currently see them anyway, then I will have made excellent progress in my spiritual development. Right now she makes me feel… human. [RotFwL]
“Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh…” ~ Kahlil Gibran
Are the people this woman angers trying to tell her that the group’s desires and her own do not match up? Not long ago, I joined a newly formed IONS (Institute of Noetic Sciences) group here in Santa Rosa. My hope was to find others who wanted to engage in psychic experiments and direct communication with inner consciousness. I was sadly disappointed. The person who organized the group ran a business (he’s a shamanic healer, hypnotherapist and teacher) and his hope, along with several other business owners in the group, was to demonstrate their wares and develop a customer base (my wife and I wore T-shirts from our store to meetings as well).
For a while, I tried to encourage members of the group to be more adventurous in exploring the nature of their own consciousness (I’m a hands-on person). I even published a lengthy list of exercises and experiments I participated in successfully with other groups, but to no avail. Frustrated, I took advantage of every opportunity to describe what we could do if we strengthened our belief in the spiritual side of our being and explored the nature of inner reality with our inner senses. Finally, the organizer called and told me I was being too disruptive. Without further ado, he asked me to leave the group, which I did.
Most of us learn to be leaders or followers, depending on our area of expertise or interest. Earning a living and feeling like we’re somebody, as defined by society, plays a big role in our society. That’s not a bad thing, it’s just the way it is. I figured out long ago that I want real answers, not half truths or children’s fairy tails. If something doesn’t make sense to me, based on my own understanding and experience, why should I accept it because some authority figure, or text book, says it’s true. I like to work with others in a spontaneous and collaborative framework, and if I can’t find people with the same interest, I work on my own, which is a lot. Even though the members of this group wanted to believe in and understand more about their own psychic nature, most of them were uncomfortable experimenting on themselves, unless the experiment was conducted by an accredited or self-proclaimed expert. Their general preference was to watch videos and invite guests to speak in a familiar and safe classroom environment.
After leaving the IONS group, I realized that if I wanted to form a group that satisfied my needs, I’d have to outline my goals ahead of time and present them as a platform around which people of similar interest could gather. The IONS group was too small for free choice to work. Too little is known of our spiritual nature and cultural fears keep most of us from wanting to explore it. Another alternative is to search for a compatible group that is already established. I assumed that because this was an “IONS” group, everyone would be interested in exploring the nature of consciousness. This was not so, much to my dismay. What made matters difficult for me was that I liked everyone in the group and wanted it to work. Frustrated when it didn’t, I projected disapproval and unhappiness onto members of the group, which was totally unfair. We all have our own reasons for doing or not doing anything.
Perhaps the disruptive woman in your church is frustrated because the goals of other church members don’t match up with her own. Like me, she may have to leave, and if she wants to belong to a group, she’ll have to find one with compatible goals, or start her own by defining her goals ahead of time to give others clear foreknowledge of what to expect. As they say, oil and water do not mix. I guess the solution is to accept them both as they are and respect their own unique differences.
Pete – http://realtalkworld.com/
“We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having (creating) a human experience.” – Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
“How you define yourself and the world around you, forms your intent, which, in turn, forms your reality.” – Seth
In other words, we create our reality from what we believe about ourselves, and the world around us.
If we do not consciously choose our beliefs, we unconsciously absorb them from our surroundings.
If our beliefs, attitudes, values and expectations create our reality, can we afford not to question them?
The more we love, understand and appreciate ourselves, the better we treat ourselves, and the world.
Blessings of love and understanding be to us all!
The secrets of the universe lie hidden in the shadows of your experience. Look for them!